Comments on: Are we living in “1984”? http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/ ISP industry news and views from converged communications provider Entanet International Ltd. Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:49:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: anarchy http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-53 anarchy Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:50:50 +0000 http://opinion.enta.net/?p=252#comment-53 It's all about ultimate control over what you see and do. Look up the 'new world order'. Enough said. Oh, and just to note, there are still a few ways of protecting your privacy on the internet such as SSH tunneling and VPNs. It’s all about ultimate control over what you see and do. Look up the ‘new world order’. Enough said.

Oh, and just to note, there are still a few ways of protecting your privacy on the internet such as SSH tunneling and VPNs.

]]> By: felixcatuk http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-32 felixcatuk Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:25:12 +0000 http://opinion.enta.net/?p=252#comment-32 Smoking kills 100,000 people a year.Approximately 4000 people die in domestic accidents, and another 3500 in car crashes.800 people a year are murdered.Terrorists kill around 5 people a year, though none since 2005 when 56 were killed.  Meanwhile Harold Shipman killed 200.I know where I'd spend billions. Smoking kills 100,000 people a year.Approximately 4000 people die in domestic accidents, and another 3500 in car crashes.800 people a year are murdered.Terrorists kill around 5 people a year, though none since 2005 when 56 were killed.  Meanwhile Harold Shipman killed 200.I know where I’d spend billions.

]]> By: W_Churchill http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-31 W_Churchill Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:31:37 +0000 http://opinion.enta.net/?p=252#comment-31 Knowing that this is going to happen serious terrorists will not use traceable communications.12 billion is an awful lot to spend on a database that can be rendered virtual useless by using high level encryption and un registered remote devices.My feeling is that this is not about terrorism at all and it will be abused in the same way as all the other powers given to government agencies over the past few years....do people actually believe that they will not read the e mails ???There are already systems in place to track communications covertly (echelon) so why is more needed ???.At the end of the day you have to ask yourself  just what is it that we are trying to protect ? if its our long held belief in freedom of speech, then the terrorist has already won when we embark down this path.These are policies that we have shouted down in china and russia for many decades we propose them here...our government should hang its head in shame.... Knowing that this is going to happen serious terrorists will not use traceable communications.12 billion is an awful lot to spend on a database that can be rendered virtual useless by using high level encryption and un registered remote devices.My feeling is that this is not about terrorism at all and it will be abused in the same way as all the other powers given to government agencies over the past few years….do people actually believe that they will not read the e mails ???There are already systems in place to track communications covertly (echelon) so why is more needed ???.At the end of the day you have to ask yourself  just what is it that we are trying to protect ? if its our long held belief in freedom of speech, then the terrorist has already won when we embark down this path.These are policies that we have shouted down in china and russia for many decades we propose them here…our government should hang its head in shame….

]]> By: Atomboy http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Atomboy Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:11:07 +0000 http://opinion.enta.net/?p=252#comment-30 There is a need for all ISPs and everyone within the internet and computer community to highlight this debate. Jacqui Smith, probably quite stupidly, has said she wants there to be an open public discussion and as the real implications of this legislation are revealed, it will do ISPs no good to hide behind the government's propaganda machine. All that will happen is for customers to abandon them as state collaborators. The eyes of the world are watching and it is important to stand up and show which side you are on: the freedoms of the people or the oppressions of the state. This is something on which pretending to be neutral is not credible. Yes, we are sleepwalking into a database state, not just in New Britain, but across Europe (this is a European directive) as a result of the American Patriot Acts, which have hyped up and overblown the terrorist threat in order to strangle freedoms and cripple civil liberties.Once the Communications Data Bill has been inflicted upon Britain and Europe, the rest of the world will copy it, make it worse, find new ways to make it more oppressive and pool their resources to ensure that people across the world are too scared to even think that they were once free.You will soon have the jackals, jackasses, jackbooters and jobsworths of the state poring and drooling over every email you send, every text you write, every phone call you make and every website you visit.Keep screaming from the crowd how wonderful our governments are at protecting us from the perpetual, but forever unseen 1984 wars and keep cheerleading for the two minutes’ hate and maybe you will be safe.Just make sure you are never the first one to stop applauding.Alternatively, stand up and be counted and keep rubbing the faces of politicians in this abomination and keep people informed about what they are trying to do to you.Kill it with a thousand acts of daily sabotage by doing the one thing which governments fear most: talking to and associating with other people.http://communicationsdatabill.info/blogs/ There is a need for all ISPs and everyone within the internet and computer community to highlight this debate. Jacqui Smith, probably quite stupidly, has said she wants there to be an open public discussion and as the real implications of this legislation are revealed, it will do ISPs no good to hide behind the government’s propaganda machine.
All that will happen is for customers to abandon them as state collaborators.
The eyes of the world are watching and it is important to stand up and show which side you are on: the freedoms of the people or the oppressions of the state.
This is something on which pretending to be neutral is not credible.
Yes, we are sleepwalking into a database state, not just in New Britain, but across Europe (this is a European directive) as a result of the American Patriot Acts, which have hyped up and overblown the terrorist threat in order to strangle freedoms and cripple civil liberties.Once the Communications Data Bill has been inflicted upon Britain and Europe, the rest of the world will copy it, make it worse, find new ways to make it more oppressive and pool their resources to ensure that people across the world are too scared to even think that they were once free.You will soon have the jackals, jackasses, jackbooters and jobsworths of the state poring and drooling over every email you send, every text you write, every phone call you make and every website you visit.Keep screaming from the crowd how wonderful our governments are at protecting us from the perpetual, but forever unseen 1984 wars and keep cheerleading for the two minutes’ hate and maybe you will be safe.Just make sure you are never the first one to stop applauding.Alternatively, stand up and be counted and keep rubbing the faces of politicians in this abomination and keep people informed about what they are trying to do to you.Kill it with a thousand acts of daily sabotage by doing the one thing which governments fear most: talking to and associating with other people.http://communicationsdatabill.info/blogs/

]]> By: warweezil http://opinion.enta.net/2008/11/03/are-we-living-in-1984/comment-page-1/#comment-28 warweezil Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:29:26 +0000 http://opinion.enta.net/?p=252#comment-28 Once again government forgets it serves the people, NOT the other way around. Is it me or are the new younger politicians more arrogant in their abuse of power over our lives?This is another bad idea featuring another database for this surveillance obsessed government  -  I think its more about control of the populace than terrorism. Once again government forgets it serves the people, NOT the other way around. Is it me or are the new younger politicians more arrogant in their abuse of power over our lives?This is another bad idea featuring another database for this surveillance obsessed government  -  I think its more about control of the populace than terrorism.

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